From 1.6 to 2.0 8v what I need
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From 1.6 to 2.0 8v what I need
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i have a mk1 cabby 1.6 and I want to put in a 2.0 8v from a mk3. I found the engine (i think is an 2e or a aba, dunno, i see it only in january!) and I need to know WHAT I need to change/buy.
I have the engine and the unit. Nothing else, probably, but I can ask if the guy who seel my the engine can find something else, if I need. If there is already a topic, please say me! I need a list of parts to start, then there are some questions![:)](https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/themes/default/images/ocf_emoticons/smile.png)
Thank u very much. :redfaced:
i have a mk1 cabby 1.6 and I want to put in a 2.0 8v from a mk3. I found the engine (i think is an 2e or a aba, dunno, i see it only in january!) and I need to know WHAT I need to change/buy.
I have the engine and the unit. Nothing else, probably, but I can ask if the guy who seel my the engine can find something else, if I need. If there is already a topic, please say me! I need a list of parts to start, then there are some questions
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Thank u very much. :redfaced:
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Tsr performance do a conversion kit. Check them out on line
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what fuel system do you want, injection, or carbs? k-jet or efi?
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Injection and efi
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Injection and efi
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reeto, you can keep your gearbox but buy a 1.8 210mm mk1/2 flywheel and 1.8 8v clutch. you'll need complete engine and all loom plus ecu. airbox is tricky, you may be able to squeeze a mk2 difgifant airbox in (if its a 2e code) if its an aba, agg or ady then a mk2 diesel or spi box might work. mk1 diesel would fit easiest but hard to find
you'll need fuel next, easy option for you is post-84 cab, rocco or g40 shape polo lift pump and under car reservoir as you can keep your fuel tank. then fit a mk1 gti main pump, or polo gt/g40. then its a case of replace the fuel lines for 8mm stuff, weither fuel injection rubber or maybe look at polo/mk2 plastic pipes might fit?
if you get a k-jet mk1 main pump, buy a barbed banjo adaptor for it off ebay m12x1.5 then you can use push fit rubber fuel lines on it. exhaust mk1/cab/rocco gti manifold and downpipe, mk1/cab pre-84 gti exhaust system. make sure the manifold and downpipe is the later gti design with the 6 bolt flange as it flows better than the older toilet bowl design.
you'll need fuel next, easy option for you is post-84 cab, rocco or g40 shape polo lift pump and under car reservoir as you can keep your fuel tank. then fit a mk1 gti main pump, or polo gt/g40. then its a case of replace the fuel lines for 8mm stuff, weither fuel injection rubber or maybe look at polo/mk2 plastic pipes might fit?
if you get a k-jet mk1 main pump, buy a barbed banjo adaptor for it off ebay m12x1.5 then you can use push fit rubber fuel lines on it. exhaust mk1/cab/rocco gti manifold and downpipe, mk1/cab pre-84 gti exhaust system. make sure the manifold and downpipe is the later gti design with the 6 bolt flange as it flows better than the older toilet bowl design.
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My cab is an '92, i think that i don't need to do some works, right?
Thanks a lot
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you still need to do all of the above, unless its got fuel injection already
edit: oh! but you need a post-84 cabrio 1.8 exhaust not a tintop one as it fits differently
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How can I know what exhaust I have? ![:)](https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/themes/default/images/ocf_emoticons/smile.png)
No airbox but cone filter
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No airbox but cone filter
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you have a late cabrio so you need to make sure you get a post-84 1.8 gti cabrio exhaust, as i say they fit a bit differently to the earlier ones. the manifold and downpipe can be any age mk1/cab/rocco gti, just make sure its the 6 bolt flange type
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mmm… ok i try to understand (be so patience with me ahahaha I'm a woman and I need to understand so clear because, I buy and I PAY!! Ahahah!!!)
Manifold and downpipe: mk1/cab/rocco ONLY gti or i can use what i already have?
Exhaust: i need to change with a post84 1.8 gti right? (I need to change in all the time because…well…the man that he had the cab before put an OIL JAR to fit a problem
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Manifold and downpipe: mk1/cab/rocco ONLY gti or i can use what i already have?
Exhaust: i need to change with a post84 1.8 gti right? (I need to change in all the time because…well…the man that he had the cab before put an OIL JAR to fit a problem
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you could use your old exhaust complete along with the manifodl and downpipe, but i wouldnt recommend it becasue its smaller bore than the 1.8 system (unless its been upgraded!) ![:)](https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/themes/default/images/ocf_emoticons/smile.png)
if not, any fuel injected mk1 golf, cabrio or scirocco manifold and downpipe. make sure its later type which has a 6 bolt flange between the manifold and downpipe, like this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Golf-Mk1-GTi-1-6-1-8-Exhaust-Front-Down-Pipes-/271107712820
you could of course go for a 4 branch system if you want, but beware many of these hit the tunnel if you fit a tall block from a mk3. a genuine mk1 system will be fine.
for the exhaust, after 1984 the rear boxes changed due to the fuel tank being larger, so this is why you need a post-1984 1.8 gti cabrio exhaust system![:)](https://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/themes/default/images/ocf_emoticons/smile.png)
i think the later 1.8 carb cabrio also has the same larger bore system as the gti, but I'm not 100% sure when the change occured
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if not, any fuel injected mk1 golf, cabrio or scirocco manifold and downpipe. make sure its later type which has a 6 bolt flange between the manifold and downpipe, like this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Golf-Mk1-GTi-1-6-1-8-Exhaust-Front-Down-Pipes-/271107712820
you could of course go for a 4 branch system if you want, but beware many of these hit the tunnel if you fit a tall block from a mk3. a genuine mk1 system will be fine.
for the exhaust, after 1984 the rear boxes changed due to the fuel tank being larger, so this is why you need a post-1984 1.8 gti cabrio exhaust system
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i think the later 1.8 carb cabrio also has the same larger bore system as the gti, but I'm not 100% sure when the change occured
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Ok
Understand!
For the eletronic part: I think that I have to do all by myself? The wiring…
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For the eletronic part: I think that I have to do all by myself? The wiring…
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yep unless you can find someone who is willign to do it for you! I do make the looms but i am already booked up with over 50 so i wont be able to get to it any time soon.
I can talk you through it if you like, theres a lot of information in this thread:
http://www.clubgti.com/showthread.php?249714
the mk3 8v loom will be the same as doing an abf loom
I can talk you through it if you like, theres a lot of information in this thread:
http://www.clubgti.com/showthread.php?249714
the mk3 8v loom will be the same as doing an abf loom
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When I finish my work, probably I write your name on my engine AHAHAHA thank u so much...
I read all!!!
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no problem, if you have more questyions ask away
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Can't find the wiring!!! Help me
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The engime is… only the engime!!!
I find this http://www.ebay.it/itm/MK3-GOLF-GTI-1996-2-0-8V-COMPLETE-WIRING-LOOM-WITH-ECU-AND-FUSEBOX-WIRING-LOOM?item=330855829957&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D5%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D4889813550713856196#ht_500wt_1362
but 38£ for send this in Italy… I pay a lot
I find this http://www.ebay.it/itm/MK3-GOLF-GTI-1996-2-0-8V-COMPLETE-WIRING-LOOM-WITH-ECU-AND-FUSEBOX-WIRING-LOOM?item=330855829957&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D5%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D4889813550713856196#ht_500wt_1362
but 38£ for send this in Italy… I pay a lot
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right i see, what engine code is the block you have? the 2e, agg and ady all differ slightly
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Ok the engine is down and we're waiting for the new one.
I found this:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/VW-Golf-1-Cabrio-Benzinpumpe-Vorforderpumpe-2H-JH-GTI-/121057946549?pt=DE_Autoteile&hash=item1c2f9dabb5#ht_500wt_1288
is it what I need? How can I install this? I find the cap under the seats and I know that it go in the tank, but, for the wiring? Where do I take the cable?
I found this:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/VW-Golf-1-Cabrio-Benzinpumpe-Vorforderpumpe-2H-JH-GTI-/121057946549?pt=DE_Autoteile&hash=item1c2f9dabb5#ht_500wt_1288
is it what I need? How can I install this? I find the cap under the seats and I know that it go in the tank, but, for the wiring? Where do I take the cable?
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