Rivage rear brakes not working
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took the rivage for its annual MOT and was told by the MOT guy that the rear brakes need looking at as there was no resistance at all!
If i have read correctly the later cabbies do not have the rear beam compensator valve abut have pressure operated one near the servo?
would this be a good place to start? also how easy is it to change? , i assume all brakes would need bleeding again?
also anyone have a pic to what the part looks like?
thanks in advance
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Rivage rear brakes not working
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Pull off the drums and look-see before starting to twiddle and disturbing other stuff
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the spring on the adjuster wedge is broken, or missing the wedge or the wedge was put in backwards and can't adjust.
Taking it apart and inspection is warranted.
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The rear brakes worked fine at MOT time last year, and the cylinders were replaced a few years back, hence i was thinking something further up the chain as both rear brakes are not working.
I will check them anyhow to confirm alls ok as its not too much effort.
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How old is your brake fluid?
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mark1gls said
Auto adjuster not working on rear drums…
How old is your brake fluid?
Hi Mark,
ive had the car 3 years, and ive never changed it…. might have to start there, will the auto adjuster need to be replaced then?
thanks
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But I have seen over the years of ownership where the POS (previous owners Service) have placed in in the assembly incorrectly.
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I can remember one time that I had a leaking rear wheel cylinder, which I replaced as well as the shoes, buttoned it all up, replaced the other side as well, and got it on the ground only to bleed it, when I pulled up the E-Brake, one of the Cables snapped….. So on all new to me cars, I replace the rear wheel Cylinders, e-Brake Cables, as well as bearings, shoes and drums… So I am done with it for a few years. Oh, and I never forget to replace the rubber hoses as well.
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i changed the brake fluid and it was well past it! very dark brown!
brakes seem to work better now, but will have to see when it gets its mot done next year! it will probably do with one more change to make sure all the rubbish is out the system.
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went in for its MOT again and rear brakes still have little to no bite.
Cylinders looked ok, and brake assembly looked ok. might change the cylinders again any way in case they have seized. Handbrake operates perfectly.
brake hoses are old and probably need changing too, but they look rusted on.
i guess my next option will be to change the master cylinder?, maybe change that and the servo to an upgraded one?
over to you guys , any advice appreciated!
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Rivage rear brakes not working
These cars are knocking on a bit now so it’s worth spending on stopping.
Can you replace the seals on the master cylinder?
I did on my old Vauxhall Nova many moons ago.
If you’re going to change master cylinder then it’s probably worth upgrading the servo.
These cars are not known for their stopping abilities lol.
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I had a similar advisory on the mot when I purchased my car, I checked everything over and there wasnt any obvious problems with any of the breaking components individually so I came to the conclusion the whole system was just past it.
The intention was to just fit new drums, shoes and braided hoses back and front but one of my original lines sheared so had to replace the lot.
Id go for new drums and shoes as a minimum, you can work out for yourself if your rears are up to MOT standard by parking on a hill
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worried the brake pipe joints will mess up as they are pretty rusted where they join the flexi`s.
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I found them invaluable when undo the brake lines above the rear beam, I had to use an extension bar and socket wrench to get access to the connections.
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