Speakers

Hi all,

I currently have no speakers in my mk1 so got myself a pair of 4x6 Pioneer TS-P462 plate speakers for the front, but as my door cards don't have the speaker pods/pockets i'm not sure where i could mount them without cutting into my door cards, suggestions anyone??

also going to mount some speakers in a parcel shelf (don't worry though i'm not butchering an original shelf, making my own )
looking at getting some 6.5" components with separate tweeters so can put the 6.5"s in the parcel shelf, and mount the tweeters in the shelf supports where the original speakers are

can anyone recommend a decent set?

been looking at Focal Performance PS165's, read good reviews about them, does anyone have any experience with them?

Cheers
Ned

If you're going to end up making/modifying something to make speakers fit in the front, you'd do better fitting the focals in the front and pioneers in the back.

As mk1 door cards are so simple, I'd be tempted to either make a pair, or get some spares that don't "matter" and build your components into them.

It's not just "how you do things" but also MUCH nicer having the main soundstage up front and the rears just giving fill to cover road/wind noise etc.

There'd be little benefit (except for the improved crossovers) in putting components in the back, rather than using coaxils.

funnily enough i've been thinking and looking in the golf today and what you've said is what i'll probably try and do, plus the pioneers will fit straight into the parcel shelf supports being 6x4's.

now just need to decide whether to cut mine up or find some others, mine aren't the best of condition anyway…

it's a good point though as i spend all of the time upfront

I don't suppose you know the size of the depth behind the door cards though if i were to mount speakers in them?

Cheers

Sorry to jump in on the thread but any reccommendations for anything that fits the tiny standard location for a tintop up front? im going retro with 1983 pioneer tapedeck & pioneer rears on the parcel shelf….

4x6's fit in the standard speaker door pockets, pretty sure JBL do a good replacement (JBL GTO-6429 i think) google is probably your best tool, search best 4x6 speakers or 4x6 speaker reviews etc

i've got some 4x6 pioneer ts-p462's as i read good reviews and i found a brand new set cheap on ebay, they're plate speakers so have separate driver and tweeter, a bit like components, Infinity Kappa's are the same and good too, but these are both usually hard to get hold of in the UK

hope that helps

my golf is currently in bits under my bed, in the shed, in the attic and garage but having tried various combinations over a 20 odd year period i only got decent sound with a solid braced plywood parcel shelf with 9 inch round clarion speakers with which the front 3 way 6x4s were inaudible. of course back in the day the shelf and head unit got stolen every 6 months or so!

personally i will be going down the "quality" 6x4 in standard pods and an underseat subwoofer when i get mine back on the road.

modern cars generally have much bigger and stiffer door cavities and often a hidden sub meaning even upgrading the speakers will not produce the audio quality in a modern bog standard car.

re. JBL - they do 2 different 4x6"s… If you can get a deal on the dear sort, they'll be a lot nicer than the "cheap" ones.

If your door cards aren't the best, I wouldn't worry about chopping them - especaially if they're a "common" pattern.

Could you retrofit speaker pods from a late cabby? Or a mk2? (both of these would be 5 1/4" rather than 6 1/2", but would look the most original - You'd have to measure the mk2 idea up to see if it'd fit!)

Spotted these which are designed for use on a flat surface - just a thought:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Q-Logic-UNIVERSAL-Kick-Panel-Speaker-Mounts-Forms-Pods-/160359000680

yeah they are a 'common' pattern so i'm not too fussed about chopping into them now

oh yeah forgot about those, do you know how sturdy they are though? wouldn't want them to rattle with a decent speaker in them or anything.

i did think about mk2 one's but mk2 door cards aren't flat are they? so would be a bit more difficult.

yeah Rob suggested kick pods, those look pretty simple too, i think if i cant find a better easier way then i might have a go at making some simple ones to fit on the door cards

i might look into getting some late cabby ones though if i can reinforce them and get them to fit securely

Thanks for the info fellas and sorry again for thread hi-jacking

Ned, here's the pics of the kick pods ad requested.