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ive finaly to the plunge and going for a full engine rebuild from a vw specialist, he is compleetly stripping the engine bay so i can have it painted, im looking at mars red paint and there seems to different types, 2k , matt , gloss, ect. any ideas on what paint it needs

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2k is what you need


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thanks, i went to bodyshop today and he said he wanted to know what paint i wanted and he couldnt give me a price until he seen the car (fair shout) anyone got a rough idea on cost to expect?. the engine bay is solid and will be compleetly stripped of parts so hpefully prep and paint

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 Quality is very subjective so prep and paint can vary a lot, if it's degreased clean and just needs peeping and painting I'd charge you about £600-£700 because there are so many labour intensive bits that need keying, priming and preparing before paint and the price of materials alone can be quite high. So if he says £500 and you're happy with the quality of his work that you've seen that sounds reasonable


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i put 500 back for it but im only doing it once so may have to dig a bit deeper, see what he says, i want the whole car sprayed but with the cost of engine i will have to save for that, i got to do engine bay whilst its all out or it will end up costing me more later.

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Sounds like a very sensible approach, nobody likes doing things twice


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i will pop a  few pics up tue eve when i get the car back so you can see it. i did say to the bloke i would do as much prep as i can and he said no, if hes going to do it he wants to prep it himself his way. i have a media blasting kit so i was thinking of taking the old paint off myself. i think just have to wait till tue, just looked on ebay and can get 7.5 litre 2k paint set for 180

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If he's just painting the bay he probably won't use more than a litre which should cost about £25 but then you need hardener the ratio is 2 parts paint to 1  part hardener and 10% of thinners so you end up with over 1.5 litres of material which should be plenty for the bay. Look forward to seeing the pics


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Plus there are 2 variants of Mars Red, IIRC Mars Red No1 and No2? So make sure that the colour is correct and a record is kept of code and shade.  Especially if you don't end up using the same guy for later paint works.
As Jamie points out there's often more prep work that's needed.

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thanks for your advice, i got car back today and took it straight to body shop, he asked what paint finish i wanted, i said i wanted standerd coulour as per paint code on the car, he then said do i want a block colour and laquer , i said standerd block, is this right ?. the engine and box is now out and i damaged the wing so getting a new one from vw herritage,  i took seats and carpet out and its relly solid , the bloke said he would love to take on this car , he said if i strip it out he would do a full respray, engine bay and inside the car, and take wings off and do in arches aswell.  thinking just bite the bullet and get it all done in one go . just want the paint to be right. any advice would be great as i dont understand pait but i can show him this thred and he will understand it

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it just means that he will use a solid one coat paint instead of a base colour and then a Laquer top coat. From the factory theses car were painted in Cellulose and one colour. That paint is not used anymore. If you're confused go have a chat with him ask about the merits of the paints, what the differences are between them.
Yes wings off that way you can see what condition the inner wings are too whilst at it.
 

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yes i thinks i will have a good chat with the paint shop before i hand the car over, golf gti 104.jpg had another go at stripping the car today and made sure i took  lots of pics so i know where to put things back, very happy with how solid the car is, i was only going to do engine bay but its now turned into a full inside out job, what have i got myself into. golf gti 113.jpg first 2 pics at start,looks ok before. golf project 002.JPG golf project 004.JPG golf project 005.JPG golf project 006.JPG golf project 007.JPG golf project 010.JPG golf project 011.JPG golf project 023.JPG

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going back to the paint, is it best to have base coat then laqure or just solid one coat

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Hello again, sorry been a bit busy, firstly solid looking car thanks for the pics, always nice to see pics of someone else's project.
Back to paint, I personally would go for solid colour in the bay and inside purely because there is a high possibility of contamination ( i.e. Crud in the paint ) due to the very nature of the area and how hard it is to clean 100% and there's always the risk of dislodging debris that had been missed or just relocated during the pre paint clean. If this occurs then you have a better chance of flatting and polishing out any imperfections.
Base coat and lacquer do have better UV protection but in the bay and under the carpet this isn't going to be much of an issue.
But this is just my opinion as chortle said chat to your painter and get his take on things as people generally have a preferred method of working hence why he said he'd rather do the prep himself.
Again as already stated make sure you get the correct variant of colour.
Anyway just remember when it's done it's going to look AWESOME!! enjoy


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Oh and I don't know what your plans for the inner wings and arches are but I intend on using upol Raptor which is tintable with 2k paint and is very tough and durable


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when i see him thats why im grateful for any ideas and tips i can show him, he knows i like going to my car shows w

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he said to take the wings off but i never thought of what hes thinking of doing so im going to show him this thred  so grateful for all ideas and tips, he knows i like my car shows with my capri and escort and this will be going to shows aswel. auto glass are taking front an back window out nx sat, and i will have a go at removing black stuff from engine bay, it defo do its job of protecting it but its got to go. thinners and a stiff brush ?????

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So any results to show us yet ?


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its finaly in the paint shop, it went in last week, went there today and it hasnt been touched yet, he said he going to start next week, i did say that theres no rush and dont matter how long it takes him . im off to cornwall tomorrow to see whats going on with the engine,  i think this is going to be a slow project but will get there.

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What you doin entering my manner without permission?  :P

Where in Cornwall you going? Who's doing the Engine then?

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