government wants rid of our old cars
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Old Timer
government wants rid of our old cars
http://www.forum.golfgti.co.uk/index.php?topic=21555.0
if that happens i will be the first to do donuts infront of number 10! :evil:
erm i meant start a peacefull protest!
if that happens i will be the first to do donuts infront of number 10! :evil:
erm i meant start a peacefull protest!
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Id j0in u!! 0r shall we get all 0f us t0 d0 it with y0u??
Just think, 0ur Mk1 G0lfs wud bec0me legends!!
Just think, 0ur Mk1 G0lfs wud bec0me legends!!
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Local Hero
I'd be there with you G60RGE!
Can you imagine the uproar if they try and do this? 8O I can't imagine how many thousands of people have older & classic cars that would rebel - is downing street big enough to take all of em?
Can you imagine the uproar if they try and do this? 8O I can't imagine how many thousands of people have older & classic cars that would rebel - is downing street big enough to take all of em?
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I think we should draft a standard letter and then get everyone to print it out, sign it and send to the address given. Have any classic magazines thought about this yet?
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Drew.
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Government wants rid
All you have to do is hit three points in London at the same time with lots and lots of MK1's……..Marble Arch……Trafalgar Square………Parliament Square…..all you do is go round and round…..you might have to jump a light or two, but it works….crippled in an hour…and you dont even have to get out of your car.
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Old Timer
Has anyone actually seen anything official on this yet - the post on that forum seemed a bit light on hard facts imho .
I think everyone has to face up to the fact that with tightening enviro legislation at some point some classics will not be able to pass emissions test without significant modification. I disagree as strongly as most of you on this, but people should be looking to the future and ways round this.
Personally I think the way to go is engine transplants into classics. Similar to the way people are already fitting modern Zetec engines to older classic Fords or the newer Nissan diesel engines fitted into refurbed Routemaster buses.
The certification for working on cars things would worry me more, although I think enforcing it would be impossible.
If legislation like this does come in, then rather than the doom and gloom forcast for the restoration industry I think you may find a mini-boom for the savvy restorers, converting / modifying classics to get round the legislation.
Doesn't bode well for future classic car values though - all the more reason to stick with affordable classics like the Mk1 golf.
Chris
I think everyone has to face up to the fact that with tightening enviro legislation at some point some classics will not be able to pass emissions test without significant modification. I disagree as strongly as most of you on this, but people should be looking to the future and ways round this.
Personally I think the way to go is engine transplants into classics. Similar to the way people are already fitting modern Zetec engines to older classic Fords or the newer Nissan diesel engines fitted into refurbed Routemaster buses.
The certification for working on cars things would worry me more, although I think enforcing it would be impossible.
If legislation like this does come in, then rather than the doom and gloom forcast for the restoration industry I think you may find a mini-boom for the savvy restorers, converting / modifying classics to get round the legislation.
Doesn't bode well for future classic car values though - all the more reason to stick with affordable classics like the Mk1 golf.
Chris
ex '83 Mk1 Golf GTi Campaign owner and missing it already!
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Local Hero
Similar to the way people are already fitting modern Zetec engines to older classic Fords
Does that mean we'll have to start fitting mk5 GTI engines in our mk1s :twisted: . Agree with you Chris that this things are often blown way out of proportion like straight bananas, dangerous dogs etc without much hard facts. However, we should all keep our eye on the ball as this is the way governments are moving.
Practical Classics did an amusing piece last month on where the mag will be in 50 years time. They envisaged classics cars owners clubbing together to buy up islands to live on free from car legislation
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Posted
Local Hero
I don't want a modern engine though! the WHOLE reason I'm restoring the Mk1 is because I can do ANY work on the engine myself (maybe with a little help here and there).. well, that and it's such a great car!
I don't see how the governments going to stop me working on my car (if all this is accurate!)
I don't see how the governments going to stop me working on my car (if all this is accurate!)
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Local Hero
I think the guy who posted this made it all up to provoke reactions like this. Nobody else seems to know anything about it - Doesn't that say something???
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Old Timer
"only vehicle manufactuers to supply parts and spares making it impossible to obtain parts" - this was supposed to be happening as part of an EU change a few years ago, but was stamped on, otherwise GSF would be gone by now.
"that every vehicle even if it is a box of bits should be subject to a possesion tax" - this was a registration tax idea, proposed by the DVLA, but the proposal was recently dropped after very negative feedback.
"vehicles of a certain age to be compulsory scrapped" - would never happen - what about the compensation which would have to be paid to owners of ?500,000 1930's Bugatti's etc? Not to mention the loss of social history - what would be next - demolish all old (listed) buildings?
This is mostly hype, similar to the "warnings" that go around about dangerous test calls on your mobile phone, but some of the items really have been proposed by the DVLA and, although the reaction was very negative, so nothing (as far as I know) is still likely to happen, we (as older car owners) must remain very vigilant
"that every vehicle even if it is a box of bits should be subject to a possesion tax" - this was a registration tax idea, proposed by the DVLA, but the proposal was recently dropped after very negative feedback.
"vehicles of a certain age to be compulsory scrapped" - would never happen - what about the compensation which would have to be paid to owners of ?500,000 1930's Bugatti's etc? Not to mention the loss of social history - what would be next - demolish all old (listed) buildings?
This is mostly hype, similar to the "warnings" that go around about dangerous test calls on your mobile phone, but some of the items really have been proposed by the DVLA and, although the reaction was very negative, so nothing (as far as I know) is still likely to happen, we (as older car owners) must remain very vigilant
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I sent this to a couple of mates and one of them is sure its just a sick joke that he saw about a year ago . . .
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http://www.ukipcroydon.co.uk/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1112952138&archive=&start_from=&ucat=3&TB=home3
this link was on the other site. to be honest, it is completely unforceable and wont happen in a million years.
this link was on the other site. to be honest, it is completely unforceable and wont happen in a million years.
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Local Hero
Ah right, so thats who's been spreading that one :roll: . Those people are desparate scaremongers (like most politicians) who'll say anything to try scare people into supporting them .
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This is just the sort of thing that starts panics………. what would happen if people could'nt work on their own cars…..it would be like prohibition….. people would still do it.
I saw something like this almost 10 years ago going round the classic and custom car circuit……………….. there are just too many people in the uk that own classics and customs and many of these people are politicians…. think about it what about somewhere like beaulieu with all those cars….
I saw something like this almost 10 years ago going round the classic and custom car circuit……………….. there are just too many people in the uk that own classics and customs and many of these people are politicians…. think about it what about somewhere like beaulieu with all those cars….
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