MK1 golf MOT/TAX exemption assistance please

Hi All!!

I haven't posted on here in a long time, I have recently had some time to get my mk1 golf out of the garage and I've had it untaxed and MOT has run about 2 years ago.

I was researching online regarding the laws for MOT/TAX exemption and not sure where my car sits at the moment, spoken with DVLA they are saying potentially this April 2022 it should register at excempt or year after in April 2023.

Registration BGJ534X registered November 1981, thanks in advance for the assistance just want to get it ready for the summer really. I did try researching for this topic but I'm currently using my phone and couldn't find many recent topics again apologies if there are and I've missed them

Thanks

You'll find out when you try and tax it online surely?

It'll be zero to pay, and you'll check the box to say it's a historic vehicle and exempt from mot. 

Hi mate,

I tried taxing online it said visit the post office with V5c and MOT certificate if not applicable then V1112, I went there twice and they scan the V5c go through the process of monthly or yearly then it says not current vaild MOT so unable to tax. The person there said they can only go by what the system says hence my confusion. I also had filled out the v1112 too.

I've been looking into this for my Y REg GTi.

The gov website says;

"Vehicles exempt from vehicle tax
If your vehicle was built before 1 January 1981, you can stop paying vehicle tax from 1 April 2021.

If you do not know when your vehicle was built, but it was registered before 8 January 1981, you do not need to pay vehicle tax from 1 April 2021."

I don't think they have updated it and so it should say 1st Jan 2022 and April 2022.

So you should be tax/mot free this April.

There is a black-hole from Jan to April. My Gti was reg 1st Feb 1983 and won't be tax free until April 2024!

I have sent off for a 'birth certificate' from VW Classic Parts that will hopfully show a build date pre Jan 1983 and thus tax free April 2023.

I'm not 100% sure but think it doesn't happen automatically but you have to register your car as 'historic' and it must have a valid MOT before it becomes MOT free.


 

Hi Mate,

Great information appreciate it I guess I can wait till April 2022 to see what happens. Yeahh I guess everyone who has a MK1 golf is waiting for there cars to hit historic status adds value to the car automatically! And saves a few Bob in the process.

harshalkumar240 said

Hi Mate,

Great information appreciate it I guess I can wait till April 2022 to see what happens. Yeahh I guess everyone who has a MK1 golf is waiting for there cars to hit historic status adds value to the car automatically! And saves a few Bob in the process.

You can't just wait, my undertsanding is that you need to get it MOT'd and then use the post office to update your V5 tax class to historic vehicle and V112 to exempt from MOT.

What tax class does your V5 say?

I did this last year for my August 1980 (GRD227W). You fill in the V5 to say it is now "historic" and take it down the post office with the V112 (MOT exempt) and they have no idea what to do. So you come back some time later to see the supervisor, who also has no idea what to do. So you come back the next day when the branch manager is there (this was a main branch - not a pokey little post office) and they then scan the V5 and send it off (didn't even look at V112). Some time later you get a new 'historic' V5 through the post. The post office will/ should give you a little receipt to keep to show you have applied in case you're stopped for having no tax. From what I can make out - you have to do this every year, as the online checker is showin gas being taxed and due in April 22.

Thanks mate,question then why can't I photocopy v5c and send the v112 to DVLA if that's what the post office does? .. as when I went in they don't really know what to do. So now I filled in the V5c tax class historic and attached the v112 il ask the post office to send this to DVLA for me and see what happens then.

KingOfSnake said

I did this last year for my August 1980 (GRD227W). You fill in the V5 to say it is now "historic" and take it down the post office with the V112 (MOT exempt) and they have no idea what to do. So you come back some time later to see the supervisor, who also has no idea what to do. So you come back the next day when the branch manager is there (this was a main branch - not a pokey little post office) and they then scan the V5 and send it off (didn't even look at V112). Some time later you get a new 'historic' V5 through the post. The post office will/ should give you a little receipt to keep to show you have applied in case you're stopped for having no tax. From what I can make out - you have to do this every year, as the online checker is showin gas being taxed and due in April 22.

I'm guessing even if the VED is free you still have to 'tax' it for £0, similar to SORN so the records are upto date

You will need to wait till April then go to post office with the right paper work and they will send your Log book away to the DVLA and then you will get a new Log book in post with the car listed as a historic vehicle.
You will then in 12 months later get a letter to tax your car for £0 and a reminder that even though you don't need a MOT your car still needs to be in a road worthy to used on the road  

I had a similar problem with my car. It was registered in Aug 1981 but according to DVLA rules/regulations/wording it was not registered until 31 December 1981 as the manufacturer did not supply enough details at registration. Technically if you read they should be MOT and Tax exempt at 40. I did get a dating letter and my car was built in Jan 1981 so  a copy of this enabled me to get MoT exemption. It should be reworded. MOT and Tax exemption is attained on the 1zt of April following its 40th registration date.
So although its MOT exempt I currently pay tax until April.

Vic said

I had a similar problem with my car. It was registered in Aug 1981 but according to DVLA rules/regulations/wording it was not registered until 31 December 1981 as the manufacturer did not supply enough details at registration. Technically if you read they should be MOT and Tax exempt at 40. I did get a dating letter and my car was built in Jan 1981 so  a copy of this enabled me to get MoT exemption. It should be reworded. MOT and Tax exemption is attained on the 1zt of April following its 40th registration date.
So although its MOT exempt I currently pay tax until April.

" MOT and Tax exemption is attained on the 1zt of April following its 40th registration date."

I don't think even that rewording is correct,  it's exempt the April following the year it was registered.

e.g. if reg Feb 1982 it's not tax free April 2022 (it is tax free April 2023)

It like they come up with a simple idea, tax and MOT at 40 and then send it to the 'buggeration dept' to make it really overly complicated and difficult to do.

So the way I understand it, the car becomes road tax exempt on the 1st of April after it's 40th birthday - taking the birthday as the registration day.

So after this date, To gain exemption from road tax, you first need to get the tax class changed on the V5, to 'historic'.

You still need to go through the motions of taxing the car every year in the same way as before, except the charge will be £0.

Applying for MOT exemption IMO can wait, because it complicates things, plus, an MOT is useful to prove the car is in a basic roadworthy condition, how else could you prove it if something bad happens.,

and the level of roadworthiness to pass an MOT is such a low standard of maintenance anyway…. I ain't going to bother getting MOT exemption, at least not until I get the historical tax exemption sorted out,

for simplicity,

and I'll continue to enter for an MOT test every year, but not having to get it done immediately prior to expiration of the previous year - in other words, I can take for mot when it suits me and my time , not a due date as such, ,,,if that makes sense.

I think the MOT exemption only applies if there have not been "substantial changes" to engine, body, axles etc- best to check at: Historic (classic) vehicles: MOT exemption criteria - GOV.UK

jazzydog said

So the way I understand it, the car becomes road tax exempt on the 1st of April after it's 40th birthday - taking the birthday as the registration day.

So after this date, To gain exemption from road tax, you first need to get the tax class changed on the V5, to 'historic'.

You still need to go through the motions of taxing the car every year in the same way as before, except the charge will be £0.

Applying for MOT exemption IMO can wait, because it complicates things, plus, an MOT is useful to prove the car is in a basic roadworthy condition, how else could you prove it if something bad happens.,

and the level of roadworthiness to pass an MOT is such a low standard of maintenance anyway…. I ain't going to bother getting MOT exemption, at least not until I get the historical tax exemption sorted out,

for simplicity,

and I'll continue to enter for an MOT test every year, but not having to get it done immediately prior to expiration of the previous year - in other words, I can take for mot when it suits me and my time , not a due date as such, ,,,if that makes sense.

My understanding is that it will tax exempt the April in the following year it was 40. Using your logic a car registered today (10 Feb) in 1982 would be tax free this April (2022). I don't think this is the case, it won't be tax free until April 2023.

Just to close it off - I got the V11Z reminder for GRD227W showing 12 months £0 - went online and clicked the boxes and now "taxed" for another 12 months. Really easy and no Post Office visit needed this year!

Hi All!

Just  as KingOfSnake was saying, I went online just today and tried the process again it seems they have changed this now no need for paper based nonsence, when going through the options they have the check boxes just like the paper version of exempting of MOT the V112 form. I just ticked the box to confirm as they said "according to there records the vehicle is 40years plus" and paid for my road tax as normal . So it seems they may have changed the way of doing it ie fill out V112 and head to the post office. Although I will be MOT'ing anyway soon just gives me some time now.

My MK1 was built on 01/11/1981 so I think from next year I won't need to pay road tax although could possibly be April this year so I may even get that rebated I think.

Awesome to see you dusting off the ol' mk1 golf and getting it back on the road. I totally feel you. Trying to figure out all the rules and regs of the DVLA can be a headache. But, good news, it looks like your ride may be eligible for tax and MOT exemption soon! Make sure to keep an eye on your paystubs to keep track of all your expenses and tax deductions. And if you do end up tax-exempt, don't forget to check that box for "historic vehicle" when you're filling out the online form. Hope this helps, and happy cruising.