Carry on or make a 1.1 wishes come true? You decide.......
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Carry on or make a 1.1 wishes come true? You decide.......
However, i was wondering if anyone had done the job of converting a 1.1 to fit all the GTi components? The reason being is that i have found a solid 1.1 no Sunroof model thats beggging to be made into its bigger brother!!
So if anyone has any advice/tips on doing this I would be grateful. I know the engine mount has to be changed, but is that the only difference between the bodies? also can fuel lines from the littl'un be used as these are a tad rusty Otherwise the old rusty shell is really the only bit wrong with the 1.8, it has brand new rear beam, brakes, wishbones, ARB, polybushes, suspension, exhaust, brakelines, a shiny chrome engine….. ops: all just waiting to be plumbed in along with a mint interior.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated, as would opinions on whether to do this conversion/act of desperation! or just carry on with the relentless grinding, weding and searching for good metal on the old body. Its not a campaign, so i'm a bit more reluctant to try and keep it in the original shell, but your opinions are welcome.
Cheers people
Luke
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Local Hero
The engine mount is the only mod required to the shell, though everything off the gti will be required, including the fuel lines. The 1.1 lines are too small.
You might like to fit the airbox mount too, though the airbox will actually sit in place without it.
Sounds like the Gti owes you something, so get the other shell and do it!!!
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However I also stated that the only time I can see this being really feasible is exactly like this. Knackered but complete GTI and a sound small-block shell. You can swap over the parts replacing and refurbishing as required and although a big job you?ll have an almost good as new GTI at the end of it.
1983 Mars Red 1.8 Golf GTI
1987 Alpine White 1.8 Clipper Cabriolet
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There is alot more metel in a gti, more Strengthening in the floor ect….. the conversion is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, but i would say either buy a gti thats in better nick or just restore the 1.1…..
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Has anyone else out there found the same probs?
Thanks for the warning tho X5, might have just saved a bunch of tears….. and swearing!!
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The shell just isnt the same, ive done it myself and compaired to driving a original GTi things just arent right.
The most successfull MK1 conversions have used basic Golf models [usually because they are in better condition] and are the same SHELL [VW were not daft , think about how the original Gti came to fruition] uprated using modern parts . Lukic go for it with no worries .
Cheers ………….
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Dropping a GTI block into an 11/1300 and leaving the 11/1300s running gear probably causes some disappointment to some people.
As we?ve ranted before simply swapping engines doesn?t make a GTI
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1987 Alpine White 1.8 Clipper Cabriolet
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1987 Alpine White 1.8 Clipper Cabriolet
The trouble with doing nothing is that you never know when you are finished.
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x5pea said
There is alot more metel in a gti, more Strengthening in the floor ect…..
Where on earth did you hear that from!!!!
The shells are identical apart from the engine mount and airbox mount in the engine bay.
If you have done/driven small block chassis cars with gti engines that felt inadequate, then it was all down to the suspension/ARB set-up and Wheel/Tyre choice…
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I didn't hear it from anywhere, I know as I have cut many golfs in half during a project to make a Mk1 Trailer and trust me there was a lot more cutting in a GTI Shell. You'll see pics on my website
I found the STD GTI to be a better car compared to a 1.1 conversion I did. We had a mint 45k mile 1.1 and a worn out GTi. After changing everything from engine to running gear inc many new parts its just wasn't the same.
Like i said its better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick and im not doubting the fact that there are alot of good converted Gti's out there, only speaking from my pers experiance
Just my 2p worth AL_mk1 :?
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x5pea said
The shells are not identical, the floor has thicker metal and more strengthening in it.
I didn't hear it from anywhere, I know as I have cut many golfs in half during a project to make a Mk1 Trailer and trust me there was a lot more cutting in a GTI Shell. You'll see pics on my website
I found the STD GTI to be a better car compared to a 1.1 conversion I did. We had a mint 45k mile 1.1 and a worn out GTi. After changing everything from engine to running gear inc many new parts its just wasn't the same.
Like i said its better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick and im not doubting the fact that there are alot of good converted Gti's out there, only speaking from my pers experiance
Just my 2p worth AL_mk1 :?
Does anyone else believe this ? as this is first time i've EVER heard anything like this.
What year was the car you cut up ?
Im not convinced to say the very least !
anyone else ?
Real golfers don't play with clubs
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Old Timer
Read the autodata on both cars, where a Std car had 2 skins a GTI has 3..
Only sharing my experiance, cars ranged from 80 - 83
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- OKx5pea said
Belive it or dont belive it i dont really care….
- Where might i find this data !?x5pea said
Read the autodata on both cars, where a Std car had 2 skins a GTI has 3..
No problem, chill out man - just saying i've NEVER heard this before, and i've been doing VW's for years !x5pea said
Only sharing my experiance, cars ranged from 80 - 83
Real golfers don't play with clubs
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Autodata is a technical information book for automotive professionals
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x5pea said
And so have i mate
Autodata is a technical information book for automotive professionals
Excellent, care to explain more !? 8)
Real golfers don't play with clubs
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I found out that the cars are not the same by working and modifying Mk1's myself….
Its information listen to it or dont
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What puzzled me was the chap said the tyre pressures for my cabrio should have been alot higher than what I had them at. I had them at the pressure stated on the sticker in the door shut! My wheels/tyre sizes were standard.
Whats the deal? is this book definately accurate?
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ive never know it to be wrong..
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