HELP!!! This car is ruining my life!
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Old Timer
HELP!!! This car is ruining my life!
all I had to do was change a coolant hose. Did that and whilst doing so thought I'd degrease the gearbox area as it was filthy. Car then wouldn't start. In thinking I may have got the distributor wet I took it apart and broke it.
So in changing the distributor thought I may as well change the timing belt at the same time. Couldn't do it after getting half way through as I couldn't remove some of the pulleys due to seized nuts. But did manage to reverse my steps and get a timing check and the belt back on. Replaced dizzy to find it has a different connection. Managed to get the old connection off and on the replacement dizzy. Did oil change, filter change, sump gasket and rocker cover gasket whilst at it (although oil now appears to leak from the rocker cover somehow….side issue for now).
Car still will not bloody start!!! It was running fine(ish) before just trying to change the hose. The dizzy is 026 905 205 A instead of AA. My assumption is that only the connection is different and so it shouldn't be this. Any ideas as this is bringing me close to madness?
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MOTY 2013
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Old Timer
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MOTY 2013
have you checked for spark yet? maybe the rotor arm you have is incompatible with dizzy or cap
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Old Timer
If the rev signal isn't present what could that be…I ask as I bypassed the relay (replaced it with a fuse configuration) so that I could definitely hear the pump priming.
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Old Timer
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MOTY 2013
the dizzy is older than your current one so it might need a different cap/arm, does tyhe arm sit snug on the shaft and not move when you try to rotate it?
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Old Timer
The arm is the same as the one it came with so should be fine. I've tried both caps to no avail. I've changed the plug for a new one so it's not the plug. The leads are only a few months old. Could it be my dizzy rewiring?
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Old Timer
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Old Timer
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MOTY 2013
if you look at the wires the 3 pins from the dizzy go straight to the tci unit in the scuttle. you also can check the tci for ign live between the pin 4 & pin 2, pin 2 is the earth and it should go direct to the battery -ve. if you peel back the rubber bot on the tci plug you'll see the pin numbers, plus sometimes the tci itself has the numbers on it:
1 - green - coil -ve/pin 1
2 - brown - battery -ve
3 - brown/white - dizzy pin 1 or -
4 - black - coil +ve/15
5 - red/black - dizzy pin 3 or +
6 - green/white - dizzy pin 2 or 0
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MOTY 2013
Hello my name is John and I'm a dub addict.
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Old Timer
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rubjonny said
ok no spark to the plugs, can you repeat the test but put the king lead on the rocker cover? the one to the middle point of the dizzy cap. that'll show you if you're getting a spark to the dizzy at least. if not then it could be the new dizzy is bust as well, or perhaps the wiring from it to the tci unit is to blame.
if you look at the wires the 3 pins from the dizzy go straight to the tci unit in the scuttle. you also can check the tci for ign live between the pin 4 & pin 2, pin 2 is the earth and it should go direct to the battery -ve. if you peel back the rubber bot on the tci plug you'll see the pin numbers, plus sometimes the tci itself has the numbers on it:
1 - green - coil -ve/pin 1
2 - brown - battery -ve
3 - brown/white - dizzy pin 1 or -
4 - black - coil +ve/15
5 - red/black - dizzy pin 3 or +
6 - green/white - dizzy pin 2 or 0
Sorry John, didn't see this post earlier. Thank you for your patience!!
Today's efforts…
There's no spark to the king lead. I'm assuming I needed to check for spark at the end of the lead going into the dizzy? Although I did check both ways incase not and no spark. I did find this lead off (with the green/yellow and red/black wires leading into it)
I don't know whether I inadvertently pulled it out when pulling out the king lead, but I tried it in both ways…n still no joy! But just for reference, have I got it in the right way. It looked like a positive sign at the top which I'm assuming is red/black and so in the right way (and if it is I shall be freeing that cable up properly don't worry!)
It's dark so struggling to do any more than that until Thursday. When it comes for checking the tci connections do I just turn the ignition on and run a voltmeter thingy (oh yeah…I'm that technical) on those two pins to check for a current?
Is there a possibility now that my battery's flattened and not producing enough to create a spark? I can still hear the starter and the fuel pump so I'm assuming not.
I cannot thank you all enough…for all this and just in general…especially at the moment when I can't afford to throw money at (useless usually) mechanics. I just can't believe all this from me trying to clean the grease of the top of the gearbox but c'est la vie.
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Local Hero
Did you sort out the reason your temperature guage shot off the scale when you turn on the ignition? it sounds like you've knocked the connector off the temperature sensor and it is earthing on the engine block
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Old Timer
And the temperature sensor seems to have sorted itself, but I will have a proper check over on Thursday. I'm actually sick of this bloody car…but I know when she's going again I will love it so rough with the smooth n all that
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