Desparate to get fixed before Annual Gathering!
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I was struggling to get it started. I managed to get down to chortle's in Derby who was replacing my hood
While fitting my new hood he gave me a spare fuel pump relay and despite the priming not coming back its fired up first time every time.
However, and this may not be related to the fuel pump, the car has now started juddering really badly while accelerating in 1st, 2nd and a little in 3rd gear.
By the time I get to 4th and 5th its running smooth again.
The car is nearly undrivable now and Ive replaced the fuel pump with a brand new one fromCrazy Quiffs thinking this would solve the problem.
My friend is really good with VW's and has a load of them with k-jetronic set ups
Unfortunately he's not too good health wise at the mo so he's suggested I look at the plastic and rubber pipework around the metering head and inlet manifold to
check for air leaks, as he reckons the symptoms sound like potential air is being drawn in to upset the air/fuel mixture but i cant spot anything .cf_emoticons__BangHead:With not long to go I'd love to get to Uttoxitor but times running out.
Any help or suggestions would be really appreciated
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91Jreg Sportline (now gone) For now 88 Ereg Mk2 16v (monza blue ) (now its gone too)Numerous mk1 tintops I should never have sold 😰 Oh and a TDI Touran as a daily ….latest toy mk5 Gti (showing my age) had to go serious money pit ,now cruising a Caddy Van
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A horrible chain of events happens on these later cars as follows:
(1) The lift pump starts failing, causing the main pump to have to work harder than it should.
(2) The main pump draws a lot more electrical current, which causes the fuel pump relay to overheat.
(3) The relay gets so hot that the solder on its main current contacts melts.
(4) The contacts in the relay plate corrode from the caustic melted solder and flux.
A rotten filler neck does not have as bad effect on these setups due to how the fuel is drawn from the tank using the lift pump. But if it is rotten, it will not help !
A lift pump will often continue to work when out of the tank, but fail when under the load of pumping the fuel.
Your juddering is because the main pump is still dragging the fuel out of the tank, but it will be aerated and therefore some of the injectors will not always open as they see a pressure drop.
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Lift pump looks like the one in the link, also check the rubber hose which joins it to the sender as they can rot just sitting in petrol and send bit's of rubber into the fuel system.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-GOLF-MK1-CABRIOLET-MK2-GTI-8v-16v-FUEL-PUMP-LIFT-PUMP-IN-TANK-C246-/200691149226?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3AGolf&hash=item2eba1fe9aa
Last edit: by mark1gls
1988 Mk1 Golf GTi Cabriolet 1.8cc DX, K-jet. Daily drive. 317,000 miles and counting
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.
1978 Mk1 Scirocco GLS 1.6cc FR, Webber carb. Weekend toy.
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I took it to a highly recommended mechanic (recommended by a friend who's a mechanic himself who runs a mk 4 tdi, a 16v corrado and an 88 mk1 cabrio)
After kangerooing 30 or 4o yards down the road he put white smoke thorugh the filter box and this highlited an air leak in the consatina style rubber part that sits at the end of the inlet manifold
bought a new one from crazy quiffs which I fit tonight and the jobs a good en!
Anyway, after reading your comments about the lift pump I'm gonna fit a new one to be on the safe side.
Once again, very much obliged for your help, Paul
See you at the annual gathering!!!!
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