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A Big Ask. Mk1 Golf GTI+ Wanted.

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Hi everyone, I'm new here and have been a long time admirer of older squarer cars, particularly the Golfs Mk1 and 2. I owned a Mk2 Golf as my first car and then due to work commitments have driven a van ever since that. My situation has now changed and I am in a position to buy a Mk1 Golf to look after for as long as life lets me :)The reason I say its a big ask is because I am after an L reg (1993) model due to my personal registration starting with this letter. Obviously I can't be too fussy about its state but ideally I'd like a 1.8 or bigger and something that doesn't require too much work or has already been upgraded or modded. I'm not fussed on the roof style, cab or tin will do. I am in no rush to purchase the car as I'd rather wait for the right one to come along.

My budget is not set in stone and will totally depend on what is on offer as too how much I'll spend. Just thought I'd pop this on here in case anyone knows of anything or has one to sell to the right person knowing it will be well looked after.

Thank you for reading.

Mark.

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A Big Ask. Mk1 Golf GTI+ Wanted.

There were not many mk1 cabrios on an L plate.

Regards Volkswarren

X2 1983 A REG EW CAMPAIGN In WHITE(Awaiting full rebuild solid body) :thumbs: & T Reg S1 GTi Project, Still Looking for Series 1 GTi's or a 16S Oettinger to restore (Complete Cars only)  or an A reg Lhasa Green or White Gti to restore, also consider  Black, Red or Blue, Also Golf Driver Project Wanted anything considered WHY

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I guess you can go for a south African imported citi golf. 
There are a few knocking around on later plates 

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Definitely something I would consider, there is a 1980 1.6l on eBay atm on a P reg but I don't really want one with that engine. Guess I'll have to have some patience  O_o

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It's been a while since I was involved in a cherished transfer, so I might not have remembered this correctly or if I have things may have changed since.

However if not I think it was the case that if the vehicle you were planning to put your cherished number onto bore a Northern Irish number the restriction about not being allowed to make a car appear younger than it's original date of registration does not apply.

Northern Irish numbers were, and still are issued consecutively, only running out as and when the letter is used up and not bi-annually as they are in the rest of the UK.

They're therefore not deemed to be identifiers of age.

You do regularly see older vehicles on the road over here with the latest registration though that can be for a variety of reasons eg. ex-Govt stock or previously the bearer of a cherished number that was retained when sold on.

Might be worth looking into, if I'm not going senile and it's correct it might open up another avenue to get an older car than you thought possible?







 

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If this indeed the case then it would definitely broaden the search area. I guess I could confirm this with the DVLA. Great suggestion. Thanks mate, I'll look into it :-) 

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For anyone interested, I have spoken with the DVLA to confirm the do's and dont's of cherished plates. Regarding my plate, as it is obviously a personal plate it is deemed ageless so there are no restrictions on the vehicle I can put it on. So I had no need to look for a vehicle of a certain age! :) The 'not making the car look younger than it is' ruling is only if your personal plate is a standard issue plate.

Thank you everyone that contributed. Viewing a couple of Mk1's this weekend :)

Mark.

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Are you saying that your registration is some thing like L52 LUK if so it can only go on a car registered in UK August 1993 or after.

If it's something like LUK 52L Then it's the last letter that determines the age, so in this case August 1972 or later car.

Something like LUK 52 can go on anything, so I presume this is what you have?

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A Big Ask. Mk1 Golf GTI+ Wanted.

Lanky512 said

Definitely something I would consider, there is a 1980 1.6l on eBay atm on a P reg but I don't really want one with that engine. Guess I'll have to have some patience  O_o
What's the item number?

Regards Volkswarren

X2 1983 A REG EW CAMPAIGN In WHITE(Awaiting full rebuild solid body) :thumbs: & T Reg S1 GTi Project, Still Looking for Series 1 GTi's or a 16S Oettinger to restore (Complete Cars only)  or an A reg Lhasa Green or White Gti to restore, also consider  Black, Red or Blue, Also Golf Driver Project Wanted anything considered WHY

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volkswarren  My mistake, the particular car I mentioned is on Autotrader. Located here. Auto Trader UK - New and Used Cars For Sale

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RichardHall My Personal Reg is L4 NKV. Confirmed with the DVLA this morning that it would be suitable for addition to any vehicle.

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Lanky512   sorry, you need to go back to them and confirm again, it's definately not the case, I've got four cherished plates bought first one back in 1990 and it's always been the case you can't put a plate on a car older than the date the original registration was made available.

Here is a quote from the DVLA own site. -

Conditions to put a registration number on a vehicle
You can't:

put a registration number onto a 'Q' registered vehicle
make the vehicle look newer than it is

Private (personalised) number plates: Assign a private number to a vehicle - GOV.UK



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Lanky512  just looking at your post again and the nice Sportline you are looking at on another post, did the DVLA say that the no age restriction thing applies to cars originally registered in Northern Ireland?  If so my comments relate purely to What I know about cars registered in Engkand,Scotland, Wales.

I would be very interested if this was the case and you can do this, as I have on my company car plate, RG 11ALL which when the car comes to the end of its lease I would love to go back to a private but older car - something like a RANGE ROVER , or Pheaton but don't want something as new as a 2011 car. What is stopping me at the moment us purely the fact that it needs to go on a 2011 car. If I could buy an older one in NI and bring it back home that would be excellent.

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RichardHall in regards to the NI plates. The way I understand it is that if it's bought from Ni and registered there it has one of their plates on which I'm told do not indicate the age if the car, regardless of this when you bring it to England you have the option to re register it with the DVLA and apply English plates to it, putting on any plate you want if I understand it correctly (needs confirming)

In regards to applying your personal plate to a car that already has an English plate it seems it's more to do with the format. For example a car with the  reg PN56 RYZ is a standard reg and If you want you can buy a 'personal' plate that is say MK57 PBV. They both have the same format and if the 57 plate is applied it makes the car appear newer as it is not obviously a personal registration. 

They tell me that my reg L4 NKV does not show any age as it is quite obviously a personal plate so it isn't a problem applying to any vehicle. They were very helpful on the phone and I got straight through, no queue. It might be worth your while clarifying. Hope this helps :-) 

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this is interesting, L4 NKV is age related in my book,

Regards Volkswarren

X2 1983 A REG EW CAMPAIGN In WHITE(Awaiting full rebuild solid body) :thumbs: & T Reg S1 GTi Project, Still Looking for Series 1 GTi's or a 16S Oettinger to restore (Complete Cars only)  or an A reg Lhasa Green or White Gti to restore, also consider  Black, Red or Blue, Also Golf Driver Project Wanted anything considered WHY

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Richard… I've been trying to find a definitive answer to the NI plate question, but without success though I now suspect my original interpretation is partly incorrect.

Any official references I've read involving NI numbers concentrate on moving an NI number onto GB registered cars (the opposite to what you want to do)

As stated, NI numbers aren't deemed to be age identifiers so in these circumstances it is permitted to transfer any NI plate onto any age of GB vehicle.

When you think about it, no one can be deceived as the NI number is ageless and therefore not misrepresenting the car as something it's not.

Number plate dealers refer to it as 'masking', the intent is to 'hide' the GB cars age, not make it appear younger.

Unfortunately I don't think this can be done the other way round, that's to say putting a younger GB plate on an older NI car.

Again when you think about it that would be deceitful, making the NI car appear younger than it really is.

To add to the confusion NI cars do get issued replacement 'later' NI numbers, but since both are ageless, again there is no potential for deceit.

Clear as mud!
 

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volkswarren said

this is interesting, L4 NKV is age related in my book,

Have to agree, just because it may be someones initials and it becomes a personal/private plate , its still an age related one and cannot be fitted to an older vehicle.

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Phoned DVLA again just now. Straight through and very helpful. Different people than who I spoke to last time. Gave the details of a D reg vehicle and the details of my reg and again they can confirm that my reg L4 NKV is dateless and can indeed be transferred.

I asked for a name and phone call reference for proof of the conversation just incase. All provided and happy.

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A Big Ask. Mk1 Golf GTI+ Wanted.

Id want it in writing to be honest. The below is from there website.

Regards Volkswarren

X2 1983 A REG EW CAMPAIGN In WHITE(Awaiting full rebuild solid body) :thumbs: & T Reg S1 GTi Project, Still Looking for Series 1 GTi's or a 16S Oettinger to restore (Complete Cars only)  or an A reg Lhasa Green or White Gti to restore, also consider  Black, Red or Blue, Also Golf Driver Project Wanted anything considered WHY

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I asked for written proof and was told the best they could do was say that the phone calls were all recorded and got the name and team number of the person I spoke to.

Bit of an awkward one this.
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